Below is my original post, which was initially a response to those who asserted (tv, media) that Jackson was now in heaven. I have been told that my use of the word ‘hope’ in this context may be improper to convey what I was wishing to convey. So please read my post carefully and consider words that I agree with, upon reflection, from thegreatbout.xanga.com who said:
I have a difficult time seeing how any person following the way of Jesus (the enemy-lover) can have a hope of destruction against others. All death should be mourned, ESPECIALLY the death of nonbelievers. We can’t mourn when we are hoping they are in hell. I understand that G-D is always just, that people condemn themselves and G-D grants them what they want (which is either his presence or his absence) but G-D does not desire the death of wicked men or that any not be with him for eternity. He loves his creation. It just so happens he is also ju(s)t with his creation.
Again, there is a difference between hoping G-D is consistent and that his Word is true and hoping that a specific individual finds torture because they seem unlike Christ according to the reports you’ve heard about them. I’m fine with you amending your post. I think the word hope is he main component here.
Update: A recent NY Times article sheds more light on who Micheal really was: Maids reveal Michael Jackson’s filth and perversion I post this to not only refute those who think Micheal was a wonderful person, but also to make the point we should never worship a human being.
Addendum: Also see http://pagesix.com/2016/06/20/police-reports-make-michael-jackson-out-to-be-drug-and-sex-crazed-predator/?_ga=1.44445164.975138673.1408725175
and https://www.dailywire.com/news/the-king-of-pop-had-over-a-dozen-aliases-used-them-to-get-drugs-report“He also had disgusting and downright shocking images of child torture, adult and child nudity, female bondage and sadomasochism.”
Some of the more disturbing items found include a photo of a child holding a mangled goose and a sex book called “Room to Play” that included a photo of a murdered child beauty queen with a rope around her neck.
He also had pictures of “sadomasochistic sex, bondage, transsexuals…”
Original post:
Seems awfully hateful, doesn’t it? Actually it isn’t mean or hateful at all. I wish no harm to Micheal. As a Christian I am always saddened when someone dies without having a saving relationship with Jesus Christ, and such is the case with Micheal Jackson.
So why would I hope he has been condemned to hell? Is it because I don’t like him? No, that’s not the reason, though I never liked Micheal, his music, or (especially) his life-style. Is it because I think he was a terrible sinner and deserves to be sent to hell? Well, yes and no. Yes, all sinners deserve hell. We are all sinners – ergo we all deserve hell. Actually, in my eyes, Micheal Jackson was less of a sinner than I am because I have known Christ for many years and have tasted the gifts of God – yet I still sin.
Then why in the world would I hope that Micheal is in hell right now? Jealousy? No. Anger? No. Resentment? No. Disgust? No. I hope Micheal Jackson is in hell because it is evident to me that he was NOT a Christian. (I use the term correctly – there are many who claim to be Christians who do not have an active saving relationship with Jesus Christ. 1 Cor 6:9-11) Do I know for absolute certain that Micheal was not saved from hell? No, I don’t. Only God sees the heart. But the evidences of a Christ-changed heart are listed in the Bible, and I did not see such evidence in Jackson’s life.
1 John 2:4 (New American Standard Bible)
The one who says, “I have come to know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him;
1 Corinthians 6:9-11
9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,
10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.
11 Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.
Micheal Jackson was the epitome of what the Christian should not be: self-loving above God and others; indulgent; after the approval of people instead of God; rebellious; more concerned with eros and filia love than agape love. Furthermore, Jesus said if we denied him before men He would deny us before God the Father (Matthew 10:33). Micheal Jackson consistently denied Christ in his life and music. Micheal may have been a nice and gentle person – I don’t know – but that does not qualify him to go to heaven. He was also sinful and rebellious like the rest of us. You can apologize and confess all day long to men, even priests, but in the end it means nothing unless you repent directly and earnestly to God Himself and declare Him to be God before men (instead of building your own little kingdoms). If Micheal Jackson can live a life in direct opposition to God and yet not go to hell then Jesus Christ would be a liar and my faith is useless.
So, yes, unless he had a last-minute repentance, I hope that Micheal Jackson is in hell – not out of anything malicious, but in the hope that we have not believed in vain because God has been made a liar.
1 Corinthians 15:2
By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
We should all hope that even if Micheal Jackson is in hell that God, in His mercy, may find some way to redeem him. I say this also for our sakes, as Scripture makes it clear that we can leave the faith and lose our salvation. Here are some verses to that effect and a link to a post of mine concerning the fallacy of the “once saved, always saved” doctrine. Many more verses are listed in my reply (comments) to Leona after the initial post.
John 15:1-11 Especially vs. 6! Ow!
John 17:12 Judas was given to Christ by the Father, but was lost!
Hebrews 6:1-8 Pretty clear here – these were partakers of the Holy Spirit. See the parable of the Sower and the seed.
Hebrews 3:12-19 A warning about falling away Also: Heb 4
Want more opinions on this topic? Here are a few links:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090626044803AA8N3F7http://www.christiannewswire.com/index.php?module=releases&task=view&releaseID=10908 -the dead are in neither, good point!
http://inwhomwehaveredemption.blogspot.com/2009/06/michael-jackson-in-heaven-or-hell.html
http://www.blameitonthevoices.com/2009/07/michael-jackson-is-in-hell.html
